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senator dick durbin joins us this morning. always great to talk to you. appreciate your time. >> thanks, soledad. >> now with this latest development, how hopeful are you that, in fact, a deal is going to get done? and what would that deal look like? >> well, we should reach an agreement. the point i made was, when it comes to medicare, we know that it's going to run out of money in twelve years. whatever changes we want to make should be thoughtful changes. not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. not done in the closing days here, of a lame duck session. let's look at this thoughtfully and make sure at the end of the day medicare is going to survive and be stronger. but i think there is plenty of ground here for us to come together as democrats and republicans, the congress and the president, and avoid the worst parts of the fiscal cliff. >> okay, so what entitlements then? what would you put on the table? right now it's been the narrative is kind of republicans will put taxes on the table, democrats will put entitlements on the table. and i talked to
senator dick durbin joins us this morning. always great to talk to you. appreciate your time. >> thanks, soledad. >> now with this latest development, how hopeful are you that, in fact, a deal is going to get done? and what would that deal look like? >> well, we should reach an agreement. the point i made was, when it comes to medicare, we know that it's going to run out of money in twelve years. whatever changes we want to make should be thoughtful changes. not made in the...
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but i want to go back to senator durbin's point. if you want to do something social security, do it. leave social security in the debt aside for the moment, because it doesn't drive debt. i think senator durbin is right on that. they have to negotiate something on medicare. there's no doubt about that. remember, the person doesn't get the medicare payment. questions? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! >>> on saturday a fire killed more than 100 people. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ and the next great idea could be your
but i want to go back to senator durbin's point. if you want to do something social security, do it. leave social security in the debt aside for the moment, because it doesn't drive debt. i think senator durbin is right on that. they have to negotiate something on medicare. there's no doubt about that. remember, the person doesn't get the medicare payment. questions? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps...
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joining us, dick durbin, assistant majority leader, the senator from illinois. senator, thanks very much for coming in. we just heard from grover norquist, several republicans on capitol hill this week have said they would consider defying his pledge but for some of them, raising revenue just means getting rid of loopholes or capping some deductions, not raising tax rates or letting tax cuts expire. is that good enough? >> well, i can tell you the president has set a goal, $1.6 trillion in revenue or taxes over the next ten years. that's about 40% of the $4 trillion deficit goal that we have. that's the same thing that simpson-bowles had, 40% revenue. so the only way you can reach that, incidentally, is to allow the rates to go up. just this idea of we're going to take a look at the tax code, change some credits and deductions, you can't come up with enough money. >> so any deal will have to include at least some hike in the tax rate. >> i don't think there's any other way to approach it. that's why the president has taken this position. if we're going to make s
joining us, dick durbin, assistant majority leader, the senator from illinois. senator, thanks very much for coming in. we just heard from grover norquist, several republicans on capitol hill this week have said they would consider defying his pledge but for some of them, raising revenue just means getting rid of loopholes or capping some deductions, not raising tax rates or letting tax cuts expire. is that good enough? >> well, i can tell you the president has set a goal, $1.6 trillion...
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but i want to go back to senator durbin's point. if you want to do something social security, do it. leave social security in the debt aside for the moment, because it doesn't drive debt. i think senator durbin is right on that. they have to negotiate something on medicare. there's no doubt about that. remember, the person doesn't get the medicare payment. the hospital or doctor, the pharmaceutic pharmaceutical, whoever it is gets that. that will affect a lot of different things. it's really tough going here, but it's obvious that there are going to be some kind of, quote, entitlement cuts that come out of this. i don't know how wise that is, but it's going to happen. i don't think there's much doubt about that. >> thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> it's tough for everyone. stim a devastating fire kills more than 100 people, and there is a solution on why and how this could never happen again. it's a new day. if you're a man with low testosterone, you should know that axiron is here. the only underarm treatmen
but i want to go back to senator durbin's point. if you want to do something social security, do it. leave social security in the debt aside for the moment, because it doesn't drive debt. i think senator durbin is right on that. they have to negotiate something on medicare. there's no doubt about that. remember, the person doesn't get the medicare payment. the hospital or doctor, the pharmaceutic pharmaceutical, whoever it is gets that. that will affect a lot of different things. it's really...
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i think senator durbin is right on that. they're going to have to negotiate something on medicare, there's no doubt about that. remember the person doesn't get the medicare payment, the hospital or the doctor, the pharmaceutical or whoever it is gets that. that's going to affect a lot of different things. it's going to be really sort of tough going here. but it's obvious that there's going to be some kind of entitlement cuts that come out of this. i don't know how wise that is, but it's going to happen. >> thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. it will be tough for everyone. still outfront a devastating fire kills more than 100 people. and there is a solution. on why and how this could never happen again. if you are one of the millions of men who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you
i think senator durbin is right on that. they're going to have to negotiate something on medicare, there's no doubt about that. remember the person doesn't get the medicare payment, the hospital or the doctor, the pharmaceutical or whoever it is gets that. that's going to affect a lot of different things. it's going to be really sort of tough going here. but it's obvious that there's going to be some kind of entitlement cuts that come out of this. i don't know how wise that is, but it's going...
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we're back in town. >> reporter: so there you heard senator durbin say no more excuses, they're back in town, going to have to get back to work. certainly there is more pressure on lawmakers to get this done. the clock is ticking. some people believe that democrats and the president may feel that they have a little bit more leverage since the president was re-elected on a promise to raise taxes on the wealthy. i can tell you that the hope coming out of the meeting, the prior to thanksgiving meeting, we heard from senator reade saying they hope to meet with the president again. there's not a meeting on the president's schedule but that could certainly change. >> thank you very much. >>> a spectacular scene off miami beach as an 80-foot yacht went up in flames in a matter of minutes. three people were on the yacht yesterday when the fire broke out. they all managed to jump into the waters. rescue crews saved them. nobody was injured but they couldn't do much to save the yacht. the cause of that fire is still under investigation. >>> all you powerball players, get ready. wednesday is go
we're back in town. >> reporter: so there you heard senator durbin say no more excuses, they're back in town, going to have to get back to work. certainly there is more pressure on lawmakers to get this done. the clock is ticking. some people believe that democrats and the president may feel that they have a little bit more leverage since the president was re-elected on a promise to raise taxes on the wealthy. i can tell you that the hope coming out of the meeting, the prior to...
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durbin making it clear he's -- there's a lot of different ways to get there. would you consider that? ways to raise money from the wealthy without raising rates? >> there are ways to get there. but i think a lot of this goes back to where you start the whole discussion from. you know, those of us who have worked on this for a long time, the simpson/bowles plan, which has gained a lot of attention, even our gang of six efforts, which we think improved upon the plan. we started with the rates going back up, you use that baseline and then you work down. you can then use some of these tax reform ideas to bring the rates back down, but you basically, we need, you know, on a ten year basis, more than $1 trillion of net new revenue as we think about some of the additional cuts we're going to have to make and some of the reforms to the entitlement programs. i agree with the president, let's go ahead and bring the rates back up, but then like simpson/bowles, we can use a tax reform effort, whether it is capping tax expenditures or actually going through in a more thoro
durbin making it clear he's -- there's a lot of different ways to get there. would you consider that? ways to raise money from the wealthy without raising rates? >> there are ways to get there. but i think a lot of this goes back to where you start the whole discussion from. you know, those of us who have worked on this for a long time, the simpson/bowles plan, which has gained a lot of attention, even our gang of six efforts, which we think improved upon the plan. we started with the...
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senators dick durbin and lindsey graham. plus our powerhouse roundtable. matthew dowd, joe klein, ruth marcus, david sanger of "the new york times" and peggy noonan of "the wall street journal." >>> then ben affleck. >> you saw your parents killed? >> with war breaking out in congo, he's here live on what can be done to stop the fighting. >>> and -- >> i'm jonathan karl, i'm going to show you how this clipper will bring bipartisanship to washington. >>> hello, again. you just saw one small step for bipartisanship, is there more to come in washington? congress is back to work this week. top priority, a deal to block those automatic spending cuts and tax increases now set for january 1st, and some smart money is starting to bet that the president and congress will find a way to avoid that fiscal cliff. stocks up this week in anticipation of a deal with the dow clocking five straight of gains. and black friday consumer spending was down as well. now let's bring in t number one senator dick durbin and top republican lindsey graham. senator, welcome in. senator
senators dick durbin and lindsey graham. plus our powerhouse roundtable. matthew dowd, joe klein, ruth marcus, david sanger of "the new york times" and peggy noonan of "the wall street journal." >>> then ben affleck. >> you saw your parents killed? >> with war breaking out in congo, he's here live on what can be done to stop the fighting. >>> and -- >> i'm jonathan karl, i'm going to show you how this clipper will bring bipartisanship to...
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. >> senator durbin is suggesting the debate over the entitlement programs should be waged after the new year once the fiscal cliff issue has been settled. >>> six minutes past the hour, new storms rolling into the northwest this morning. and that could cause dangerous flooding. alexandra steele is live in atlanta for us. what's going on? >> hey, good morning to you guys. we've got one storm that's gone and one storm that's a massive storm incoming. so let's start with this, all you guys in new york city had snow, for sure, but right now we certainly don't. this has all moved offshore. this was just the rain, but what was left behind? actually black ice there this morning. places like new jersey, six inches of snow. chester, new jersey, five. you can see sunbury, pennsylvania, three. 2 1/2 in mill brooke. the hudson valley and portions of connecticut are seeing black ice as a factor. take it slow, especially the elevated surfaces with temperatures so cold. story number one. story number two, a mammoth storm, this is the water vapor. what you need to see with this is look at this huge
. >> senator durbin is suggesting the debate over the entitlement programs should be waged after the new year once the fiscal cliff issue has been settled. >>> six minutes past the hour, new storms rolling into the northwest this morning. and that could cause dangerous flooding. alexandra steele is live in atlanta for us. what's going on? >> hey, good morning to you guys. we've got one storm that's gone and one storm that's a massive storm incoming. so let's start with...
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senator dick durbin, a key democratic leader here in the senate up on capitol hill, and a close ally of president obama, just made a key speech over at a progressive group's offices in which he said that liberals shouldn't want to have medicare and medicaid and social security, the big entitlement spends as part of the discussion. he should they should be decoupled from it. listen to what durbin said a few minutes ago. >> i think we should take social sure security off the table for the fiscal cliff and discussion but be honest about what you achieve in the near term. >> scott, let me tell you what he's doing here. what we look at is a negotiating tactic in which democrats are saying, wait a second. we'll use the political advantage right now and take it off the table and see how republicans respond. later in the debate if the democrats need to cave in they can from a position further to the left of where everyone thought they might be going into this negotiation. that will end up up closer to something more comfortable for them, but i think everyone expects if there's a deal on the
senator dick durbin, a key democratic leader here in the senate up on capitol hill, and a close ally of president obama, just made a key speech over at a progressive group's offices in which he said that liberals shouldn't want to have medicare and medicaid and social security, the big entitlement spends as part of the discussion. he should they should be decoupled from it. listen to what durbin said a few minutes ago. >> i think we should take social sure security off the table for the...
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but today for example dick durbin, the number two leader of the democrats in the senate came out and gave a policy speech. he has a lot of credibility on deficit reduction. while he said medicare and medicaid changes in those programs should not be part of the first step, the democrats have to look at that down the road in order to be constructive on deficit reduction. this is a senator, liberal democrat, part of the gang of six, somebody with a lot of credibility on deficit issues. i think that opens the door a little bit. you're seeing it on the democratic side. you're seeing it a little bit on the republican side. >> both sides are going to have to open the door more than just a little bit. they're going to have to make a deal. >> because the one mandate from the public was fix things. >> fix it. and do it quick. gloria, thank you. cnn's getting exclusive new information and photographs of paula broadwell, her affair with jen david petraeus forced him to leave the cia. now her friends are coming to her defense. >>> and a 7-year-old cancer patient tries a controversial treatment. m
but today for example dick durbin, the number two leader of the democrats in the senate came out and gave a policy speech. he has a lot of credibility on deficit reduction. while he said medicare and medicaid changes in those programs should not be part of the first step, the democrats have to look at that down the road in order to be constructive on deficit reduction. this is a senator, liberal democrat, part of the gang of six, somebody with a lot of credibility on deficit issues. i think...
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durbin seems ready to deal, but he seems to be somewhat lopely -- lonely position. reid, his boss, and republicans stumbling around trying to distinguish between raising revenue, tax rates, and how much the federal government should spend. does the republican party have a message that anyone can understand here or that resinates? joining us now, senior writer for the weekly standard, and the republican national committee communications direct. great to have you both here. going first to the negotiations, both sides acknowledging they are not making any progress. where are we to look for leadership down there? >> you know, lou, it's a great question. i think the speaker, after the election, came out the next day and said we're willing to talk about adding additional revenue if the goal here is to try to put more money on the table. there's ways, closing loopholes, growing the economy that we can do that. let's face it. it's a revenue problem. by definition, a deficit exists because you spend too much, and the president who is the leader of the country, you know, clai
durbin seems ready to deal, but he seems to be somewhat lopely -- lonely position. reid, his boss, and republicans stumbling around trying to distinguish between raising revenue, tax rates, and how much the federal government should spend. does the republican party have a message that anyone can understand here or that resinates? joining us now, senior writer for the weekly standard, and the republican national committee communications direct. great to have you both here. going first to the...
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. >> david, there's also hand wringing over what senator dick durbin said in the speech at the center for american progress and we have this, dick durbin, not what he said but didn't say and preparled remarks he said progressives should be willing to talk about ways to ensure the long-term viability of the social security, medicare and medicaid but those conversations should not be a part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff and prepared remarks. he didn't say that in the speech. you have a lot of republicans on the -- excuse me, democrats on the left greatly concerned about what will happen to medicare and quite honestly not ready to put that conversation on the table. >> well, i think that's correct. you're speaking about a certain percentage of democrats. i would include in that list bernie sander who is sent out an e-mail blast today saying medicare, medicare and social security should all be off the table. now, in reality, i think social security really can be and should be off the table because it's not a contributor to the federal deficit. it's well funded for decades ahead but
. >> david, there's also hand wringing over what senator dick durbin said in the speech at the center for american progress and we have this, dick durbin, not what he said but didn't say and preparled remarks he said progressives should be willing to talk about ways to ensure the long-term viability of the social security, medicare and medicaid but those conversations should not be a part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff and prepared remarks. he didn't say that in the speech. you have...
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we have a dick durbin sound bite. dick durbin said that. he was in favor of that. >> i can't stand it. we're losing dick durbin sound bite. megyn: time is short. the point dick durbin couldn't sell it. >> dick durbin couldn't sell peanut butter to children. megyn: was raising retirement age one year, 20 or 30 years from now. >> here's the deal. the simpson-bowles commission was only a starter. it wasn't a solution. the reality is this government is too big, growing too fast, trying to do too much for too many. a child, a 12-year-old with a basic understanding in this country that would equate to, a second grade math comprehension could understand this isn't working. and we have people playing such games, such silly games in washington. and do we go over the cliff? right now i would say the odds are very high that we do because these people have no appreciation for their responsibilities. either to themselves, their constituents or to the country. megyn: lou dobbs, always interesting talking to you. thank you so much for being here. >> thank
we have a dick durbin sound bite. dick durbin said that. he was in favor of that. >> i can't stand it. we're losing dick durbin sound bite. megyn: time is short. the point dick durbin couldn't sell it. >> dick durbin couldn't sell peanut butter to children. megyn: was raising retirement age one year, 20 or 30 years from now. >> here's the deal. the simpson-bowles commission was only a starter. it wasn't a solution. the reality is this government is too big, growing too fast,...
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durbin was the guy who kept saying, where's the tipping point? when the tipping point comes, inflation kicks in, inflation rates go up. who is the guy that gets diddled the most? the middle class. >> the payroll tax goes up and the tax goes up for everybody including the people that make just barely enough to live on. my concern is the world. i'm sitting there imagining you're in england right now or australia or africa and you're watching the news every day. and you know that in the united states both political parties, you sort of know who they are, both know there's a problem, both know the number they need to reach, both know they have to reach an agreement, and they don't do it. what does it say about our country? we're the great role model for democracy for the republican form of government and we can't govern ourselves in the simplest damn thing of getting the numbers straight. i worry about that. >> they love their party more than they love their country. how did we get to that point? don't ask me, but, you know, the whole business of ref
durbin was the guy who kept saying, where's the tipping point? when the tipping point comes, inflation kicks in, inflation rates go up. who is the guy that gets diddled the most? the middle class. >> the payroll tax goes up and the tax goes up for everybody including the people that make just barely enough to live on. my concern is the world. i'm sitting there imagining you're in england right now or australia or africa and you're watching the news every day. and you know that in the...
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durbin will take heavy pounding. so will the rest. they all go home. the good ones have town meetings and speak for five minutes and stay for two hours and let people show them. i have done that for years. they will say, i did not agree with you at all but you came in and ask questions. i will continue to do that the rest of my days. i always did. did you hear what joe biden said? i said, what did he say? they say, he got his foot in his mouth. i say, i have done it more. we have got to be who we are and take the stuff. >> the best part about spending the last two years on the road with this american treasurer is we have gone to see liberal groups, conservative groups, business people, ordinary citizens, every stripe you can imagine, we have had a chance to talk to. we have had a chance to educate a lot of people about what the real problem is. i think you are right. there has been no punishment. i think people are ahead of politicians. that often happens. if they appreciate anything about what al and i have done, it is that we have been honest with th
durbin will take heavy pounding. so will the rest. they all go home. the good ones have town meetings and speak for five minutes and stay for two hours and let people show them. i have done that for years. they will say, i did not agree with you at all but you came in and ask questions. i will continue to do that the rest of my days. i always did. did you hear what joe biden said? i said, what did he say? they say, he got his foot in his mouth. i say, i have done it more. we have got to be who...
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we are thrilled to have senator durbin here today to talk about his views on the fiscal cliff. as we engage in this debate, i wanted to lay out a few principles that are critical as washington becomes obsessed with this set of issues. the elections have consequences. at c.a.p., we have argued that the issues that are really framing the fiscal debate and fiscal cliff were ones that were litigated in the election context. the president did not have one set of conversations before november and a second set now. there was a thread going through the debate that the country was having and that thread was around having a balanced plan to address america's fiscal challenges. there are serious fiscal challenges that we do need long term -- deficit reduction -- that is important to america's credibility. it is important for america's economy and economic growth. that plan has to be balanced, and that means significant revenues and that paying has to go around. that means the wealthy and well- off have to pay their fair share as well. these should not be new issues. they are ones that wer
we are thrilled to have senator durbin here today to talk about his views on the fiscal cliff. as we engage in this debate, i wanted to lay out a few principles that are critical as washington becomes obsessed with this set of issues. the elections have consequences. at c.a.p., we have argued that the issues that are really framing the fiscal debate and fiscal cliff were ones that were litigated in the election context. the president did not have one set of conversations before november and a...
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we have leading senators like senator durbin who has the courage to deal with these issues. he was on the simpson-bowles committee who said that we can't deal with those now in the dealing with the fiscal cliff, we need to put that off into the future. my experience is what you put off to the future never happen here. >> i hope we can get a deal. >>> me too. >>> great to see both of you. john let me start with you. cornyn is pessimistic, but the markets are up today, despite the glum faces we have seen. cornyn has said he's pessimistic, is he willing realistic or do you think we're going to get a deal? >> i think he's being a strategic scrooge. he's saying we need a balanced plan, but the president's not dealing with entitlealment reform and cuts. to give a balanced plan, republicans have to cut taxes. >> he said i put revenue on the table. but he wouldn't talk about the rates. >> also when asked about these specific entitlement reforms, he didn't talk about those either. we need to see some substance behind that. >> did you hear level ground where that can be forged? i don'
we have leading senators like senator durbin who has the courage to deal with these issues. he was on the simpson-bowles committee who said that we can't deal with those now in the dealing with the fiscal cliff, we need to put that off into the future. my experience is what you put off to the future never happen here. >> i hope we can get a deal. >>> me too. >>> great to see both of you. john let me start with you. cornyn is pessimistic, but the markets are up today,...
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you heard dick durbin there. tick off for me and be specific, what are democrats willing to give on in this negotiation? >> well, i think the senator's absolutely correct, we need to compromise. there's no question about that. and we will not, however, in any way, shape or form, jeopardize the planned benefits for social security. i mean that's kind of installed in the american people. we changed social security over the years in order to meet the demands that the program insists upon. we will do that. but we'll do that in a bipartisan fashion. >> okay, so compromise. social security is off the table. medicare, walk me through what are the changes here? >> we've already -- we have already cut benefits. we have already cut dollars for medicare. but not benefits. and we will not compromise on the question of guaranteed benefits of medicare. >> what do you compromise on? >> we can change medicare. as you well know, we save medicare $750 billion -- million dollars and that was because of the medicare advantage progra
you heard dick durbin there. tick off for me and be specific, what are democrats willing to give on in this negotiation? >> well, i think the senator's absolutely correct, we need to compromise. there's no question about that. and we will not, however, in any way, shape or form, jeopardize the planned benefits for social security. i mean that's kind of installed in the american people. we changed social security over the years in order to meet the demands that the program insists upon. we...
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here's what senator dick durbin said yesterday on "starting point." >> entitlements need to be part of the long-term strategy but do it in a thoughtful way. i don't want to see major changes decided in the heat of the moment. let's get through the fiscal cliff, find a way to avert it. but at the end of the day treat it as the important program it is for so many millions of americans. >> eric, if we get a deal, how much kicking of the can down the road do you think that deal will inclu include? >> i think it will include significant kicking the can down the road which is why they should kick the entire deal down the road and deal with it together. we know it won't from happen history. we have had 18 of these since 1981. more than half of the time they said they needed a deal with medicaid, medicare, social security. now we have the affordable care act as well. they never want to deal with it. meantime the debt is $16 trillion. >> thanks for joining us this morning. we appreciate it. >>> 33 days until the fiscal cliff. we just keep talking about this. while politicians try to sell their
here's what senator dick durbin said yesterday on "starting point." >> entitlements need to be part of the long-term strategy but do it in a thoughtful way. i don't want to see major changes decided in the heat of the moment. let's get through the fiscal cliff, find a way to avert it. but at the end of the day treat it as the important program it is for so many millions of americans. >> eric, if we get a deal, how much kicking of the can down the road do you think that...
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. >> this morning, dick durbin didn't really want to get into specifics. you aren't hearing a lot of numbers from a lot of people, but did say he was encouraged. take a listen. >> if i sound bland and general at this point, it's exactly to the point he made. when the doors close and we sit down with revenue on one side, entitlements on the other, then we get specific and come up with a bipartisan plan. >> ryan, to susan's point of who is the president talking to, is this something to be hashed out between president obama and john boehner. >> i guess so. because dick durbin himself has been confusing in what he's been saying publicly. on sunday he said sure medicare and medicaid can be part of the discussion. today he's giving a speech where it should not be part of the conversation. there this morning he's saying once we get into a room, we can start talking about it. and there are ways that i think liberals would agree to do medicare and medicaid. you know, if you're tinkering on the supplier side like, you know, say medical device companies or something,
. >> this morning, dick durbin didn't really want to get into specifics. you aren't hearing a lot of numbers from a lot of people, but did say he was encouraged. take a listen. >> if i sound bland and general at this point, it's exactly to the point he made. when the doors close and we sit down with revenue on one side, entitlements on the other, then we get specific and come up with a bipartisan plan. >> ryan, to susan's point of who is the president talking to, is this...
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durbin never said those remarks. he left that out. he later said he stood by those comments, and he did argue that medicare shouldn't be part of any up front down payment on the debt but part of the next year's long longer term negotiation. now while the short term talk to republicans may be tough, the longer term message to liberals is clear. entitlements in some form or fashion will need to be on the table. that means medicare. and a new "washington post"/abc poll shows just how politically tough making any changes to medicare will be. across party lines respondents said they are opposed to increasing the medicare eligibility age to 67. overall, a familiar number, 67% oppose any change in the eligibility age. just 30% would support a rise in it. one more thing that's become very clear. democrats will extract a deal -- they would like to he can tract a deal object the debt ceiling during negotiations on the fiscal cliff. and apparently in the conversations that the president had with the house republican leadership, house republicans
durbin never said those remarks. he left that out. he later said he stood by those comments, and he did argue that medicare shouldn't be part of any up front down payment on the debt but part of the next year's long longer term negotiation. now while the short term talk to republicans may be tough, the longer term message to liberals is clear. entitlements in some form or fashion will need to be on the table. that means medicare. and a new "washington post"/abc poll shows just how...
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senator dick durbin was on abc and suggested that. the minute you push for specifics, raising the retirement age on medicare, he starts to flounder. i don't know we're moving towards any kind of deal yet. on politics, simplicity sells. a tax pledge is very simple. it communicates with your voters directly. here's the deal. republicans want low taxes for two reasons. they believe it's better for economic growth. we lost the election. we're going to lose that battle. also because they believe it will force spending restraints. i'm not sure that's true. voters need to feel the consequences of your decisions. if you choose higher spending you might just have to pay for it with higher taxes. sooner or later that burden might have to be the spending restraints. >> i think voters are already feeling the consequences, though, aren't they, jason? >> yeah. voters are already feeling the consequences. i also think the voters said something in 2012. look, we are tired of rigidity in washington. tired of people holding on to 20 year pledges. like
senator dick durbin was on abc and suggested that. the minute you push for specifics, raising the retirement age on medicare, he starts to flounder. i don't know we're moving towards any kind of deal yet. on politics, simplicity sells. a tax pledge is very simple. it communicates with your voters directly. here's the deal. republicans want low taxes for two reasons. they believe it's better for economic growth. we lost the election. we're going to lose that battle. also because they believe it...
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i thought, now, durbin, what are you going to do? i voted for it. it takes some leaders who were willing to sit down and make compromises and listen. in this case apparently the negotiations directly between the white house and speaker boehner, and rob neighbors in the white house, there is no better person for the president to assign to this job. i just think the world of him. i have known him for years and have the highest respect for him. i hope that speaker boehner will just agree to one basic principle and i think we can get this done. that the solution on the house side is going to be a bipartisan solution. it has to be bipartisan in the senate. but if this is going to be an exclusive, republican solution on the house side, i'm afraid we are going to reach the same impasse we have in the past. if he will make a commitment to a bipartisan solution in the house, i think we can get this done. >> questions from the press. gentleman over here. >> norm levy with the "los angeles times." you mentioned that medicaid is a special case. does that mean t
i thought, now, durbin, what are you going to do? i voted for it. it takes some leaders who were willing to sit down and make compromises and listen. in this case apparently the negotiations directly between the white house and speaker boehner, and rob neighbors in the white house, there is no better person for the president to assign to this job. i just think the world of him. i have known him for years and have the highest respect for him. i hope that speaker boehner will just agree to one...
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. >> so far, senator durbin has limited company among some fellow democrats. keeping them honest during the last budget showdown, both sides talked like this, but then they backed away. also as we mentioned a moment ago, there are late new signs that nobody's quite ready to cut a deal. another round of white house talks between congressional leaders and president obama was promised but is yet to materialize. a senate democratic leadership aid telling us that staff level meetings meant to lay the groundwork haven't been productive. one senate republican leadership aid accuses democrats of leaking details in order to portray republicans negatively. the talks are continuing, which itself can be read as some sort of progress. whether that's real progress or washington progress, remains to be seen. a lot to talk about starting with tennessee republican senator bob corker. thanks very much for joining us. let's talk about grover norquist. no new taxes pledged. you said earlier in your career, you told cbs morning news earlier today, and i'm quoting now, you said you
. >> so far, senator durbin has limited company among some fellow democrats. keeping them honest during the last budget showdown, both sides talked like this, but then they backed away. also as we mentioned a moment ago, there are late new signs that nobody's quite ready to cut a deal. another round of white house talks between congressional leaders and president obama was promised but is yet to materialize. a senate democratic leadership aid telling us that staff level meetings meant to...
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illinois democratic senator dick durbin spoke today at the liberal center for american progress where he said this about the possibility of going off the cliff which fears of this show know is is really more of a curb than a cliff. >> some have called let's go over the cliff and watch what happens. we know if we're not careful, it will in fact stop economic growth and hurt everyone through every income category, particularly those most vulnerable. >> what he did not say is he must not go off the cliff. because the cliff is president obama's and the congressional democrats leverage over republicans. if we do go off the cliff or the curb on january 1st, a republican nightmare will occur. all income tax rates will go up and defense spending will be cut by 600 billion. other spending, some of it dear to republicans, will also be cut by another 600 billion. the fiscal cliff is much scarier to republicans than it is to democrats. so, the president and his allies must continue to make republicans believe they are willing to go off cliff. senator durbin simply said if we do go off the cliff o
illinois democratic senator dick durbin spoke today at the liberal center for american progress where he said this about the possibility of going off the cliff which fears of this show know is is really more of a curb than a cliff. >> some have called let's go over the cliff and watch what happens. we know if we're not careful, it will in fact stop economic growth and hurt everyone through every income category, particularly those most vulnerable. >> what he did not say is he must...
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. >> as for the democrats, senator dick durbin says entitlement programs like medicare and medicaid are fair game in deficit negotiations but insists social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation, and we can do things that i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing. so those who say don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. >> despite showing a willingness for reform, senator durbin ruled out raising the age for medicare eligibility. if lawmakers fail to act by january 1st, the american people will face roughly $600 billion in tax increases and spending cuts. >>> because he watches "morning joe" every weekday morning -- >> i don't think that's true. maybe. >> -- monday through friday, senator john mccain is taking our advice and softening his attacks on susan rice. after vowing to block her potential nomination as secretary of state. now, republicans
. >> as for the democrats, senator dick durbin says entitlement programs like medicare and medicaid are fair game in deficit negotiations but insists social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation, and we can do things that i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do...
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you were just talking to senator durbin. what would be really good is if this sort of bland smoke, frankly, senator durbin's a friend of mine. but this bland smoke we're hearing on entitlements from democrats and taxes from republicans, if -- behind closed doors they're able to talk more specifically. i think this is what represents, actually, some kind of progress and i'm starting to feel a bit more hopeful than i was a few weeks ago that maybe we're going to start to get somewhere. >> yeah. maybe. i don't know. >> do we still have senator durbin with us? >> yes, i'm still here. >> i don't think he's run away. >> senator durbin, can you talk about putting medicaid to the side, social security to the side, focusing on medicare. put a dollar figure out. how much savings do you think is a reasonable number that democrats could tolerate? we know that the school of thought on taxes is somewhere between 800 and 1.6. we know that spending cuts will probably be $1.2 trillion or north of that. what number could you live with in spec
you were just talking to senator durbin. what would be really good is if this sort of bland smoke, frankly, senator durbin's a friend of mine. but this bland smoke we're hearing on entitlements from democrats and taxes from republicans, if -- behind closed doors they're able to talk more specifically. i think this is what represents, actually, some kind of progress and i'm starting to feel a bit more hopeful than i was a few weeks ago that maybe we're going to start to get somewhere. >>...
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>> harry reid and dick durbin said forget it. social security is not a part of this conversation. and yet the president has shown a willingness to do that. what happens if he publicly -- and republicans right now, their frustration is that the president will say that behind the scenes but he won't public ly talk about it as much as they want him to talk about it publicly. what happens politically on the left? >> i think there's some people on the left who would not appreciate having social security and medicare as part of this, as part of this discussion. if we're in the talking phase, it doesn't hurt to talk about things that each side should put on the table. brad is right that the republicans have come a little bit with taxes. >> the discussion is not about should taxes go up. the discussion is how do you do it? >> exactly. and, listen, i think that to the extent we are just talking right now, i don't think that talking hurts. but should this become -- should this come in play, little there will be a lot of people on the left who will not be very happy. i think in some ways it
>> harry reid and dick durbin said forget it. social security is not a part of this conversation. and yet the president has shown a willingness to do that. what happens if he publicly -- and republicans right now, their frustration is that the president will say that behind the scenes but he won't public ly talk about it as much as they want him to talk about it publicly. what happens politically on the left? >> i think there's some people on the left who would not appreciate having...
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i would agree with senator durbin absolutely. i'll give you a reform in medicare i think democrats would support. and that is looking at prescription drugs. and making it more competitive. >> bill: amen. >> or really crackening down on the fraud that takes place through the medical devices which is not with individuals cheating medicare. they're fictitious businesses set up that rob medicare of billions of dollars every year. so it's not as though changes to entitlement programs are completely off the table. it is the structural breaking of the guarantee that should be off the table. >> bill: isn't it interesting when president obama did identify $716 billion in fraudulent billing on the part of insurance companies and cut that out that they accused him of cutting benefits in medicare. >> well because what benefits were they concerned about. the benefits to big businesses. >> bill: exactly. congresswoman karen bass in studio with us. we'll welcome your calls and comments at 1-866-55-press. the "full court press" continues in just
i would agree with senator durbin absolutely. i'll give you a reform in medicare i think democrats would support. and that is looking at prescription drugs. and making it more competitive. >> bill: amen. >> or really crackening down on the fraud that takes place through the medical devices which is not with individuals cheating medicare. they're fictitious businesses set up that rob medicare of billions of dollars every year. so it's not as though changes to entitlement programs are...
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. >> dick durbin says when you're talking about entitlement reform or cuts in spending for medicare, medicaid for example, he says that's too complicated now. listen to what he said this morning. >> when it comes to medicare, we know that it's going to run out of money in 12 years. whatever changes we want to make should be thoughtful changes not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. >> can you defer medicare for example -- medicare reform until after you get a deal on the fiscal cliff? >> well, if we do that, wolf, i think what you have to do is also defer the issue of taxes. i think you extend tax rates some time into the foreseeable future whether that's six months or a year and allow us to go through the process where we can deal with entitlement reform and tax reform in regular order. i don't see republicans supporting something up here that deals with taxes that doesn't have entitlement reform incorporated into that. so i think right now we're a little bit of a standoff, but the way to solve this would be of course to extend the existing tax rates which is by the way something
. >> dick durbin says when you're talking about entitlement reform or cuts in spending for medicare, medicaid for example, he says that's too complicated now. listen to what he said this morning. >> when it comes to medicare, we know that it's going to run out of money in 12 years. whatever changes we want to make should be thoughtful changes not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. >> can you defer medicare for example -- medicare reform until after you get a deal on the...
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megyn: keurs te megyn: durbin chose two good people to make that example of. people don't love and reveer the hedge fund manager, they make other people a lot of money and they make a lot of money but most people have respect for our navy seals. is he on point? >> i do think he's on point. what monica just said, radical redistribution, we are talking about the radical redistribution is going back to the clinton era tax rates. i mean that just doesn't strike me as radical redistribution. you can argue about whether or not you think those tax rates should go up because of how it may affect the recovery, but to suggest that it's somehow stealing from the rich to give to the poor, we are talking about 3 or 4% average points in the tax code. i think this is really over blown. and i'd also say when jfk was president we didn't have the kind of income inequality that we have today. it is so much greater and getting so much greater every year that i think if he was alive today that he would be exactly where most democrats are on this issue with what senator durbin said
megyn: keurs te megyn: durbin chose two good people to make that example of. people don't love and reveer the hedge fund manager, they make other people a lot of money and they make a lot of money but most people have respect for our navy seals. is he on point? >> i do think he's on point. what monica just said, radical redistribution, we are talking about the radical redistribution is going back to the clinton era tax rates. i mean that just doesn't strike me as radical redistribution....
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earlier, dick durbin insisted spending cuts from entitlement reform will not be part of the talks while pelosi spell noncommittal whether the cuts will be in the deal. still, the administration is trying to breathe life to the talks, with vice president biden shopping at new costco in washington, picking up a big screen tv and apple pie and insisting he is optimistic of a deal. >> i am. i am. all the folks in the store, man. going to make a difference. >> carney shot down a politico report that a phone call last night between boehner and the president was curt, noting it was 28 minutes long and productive. signaling the president is flexible on taxes not being specific on the new rates. >> i will say there can be no deal without rates on top earners going up. >> that means that the rates do not necessarily have to go up to 39.6. it could be 37 or 38. meaning they might goose that to try to jump-start the deal with republicans. bloomberg reports that the treasury secretary geithner has been saying look, the sky will fall if we fall off the cliff. he has the power to freeze paycheck withh
earlier, dick durbin insisted spending cuts from entitlement reform will not be part of the talks while pelosi spell noncommittal whether the cuts will be in the deal. still, the administration is trying to breathe life to the talks, with vice president biden shopping at new costco in washington, picking up a big screen tv and apple pie and insisting he is optimistic of a deal. >> i am. i am. all the folks in the store, man. going to make a difference. >> carney shot down a politico...
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you hear now from the leading democrats like dick durbin saying don't go after social security. they are trying to lay out things they don't want touched but there has to be that. the problem with the white house is we haven't heard from the republicans what they are willing to do. >> isn't it the president's deal to bring everyone to the table? >> bret: there is pressure -- >> there is pressure on the president now. >> jonah? >> some of this is ludicrous. enormous amount of the public negotiating by people who aren't privy to negotiations. particularly from the senators. senators have nothing to do with any of this. who care what is lindsey graham's position is? he is not in on the negotiations. the republican and senate aren't in on the negotiations. there is something in the ecosystem in washington that senators cannot resist being part of the story, even when they have no part in the story. this is between house and white house now. boehner position strikes me as utterly reasonable. he wants more rev lieu without raising the tax rates. whether that is negotiating strategy or
you hear now from the leading democrats like dick durbin saying don't go after social security. they are trying to lay out things they don't want touched but there has to be that. the problem with the white house is we haven't heard from the republicans what they are willing to do. >> isn't it the president's deal to bring everyone to the table? >> bret: there is pressure -- >> there is pressure on the president now. >> jonah? >> some of this is ludicrous. enormous...
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and so, as a champion of that fair shake i'm excited to have senator durbin. [applause] >> neera, thank you very much for those kind words your elections as you say have consequences. politics is driven by a lot of things. candids that money -- [inaudible] the center has been at the forefront of that effort to make sure that progressive ideas backed up by more than just -- but arguments of mind. thank you for doing that. i don't know what we do without you. it's an honor to be here with you. she was right. i've been involved in a lot of gang activity. i got to come clean with you. it started with harry reid of when you get to the simpson-bowles commission. 18 members. i thought this was another commission whose product will be lost in history. buried in some hard drive. but it turned out to be a historic effort and the game changer. mainly through the good work of erskine bowles and alan simpson. but hard work that was put into this bite 18 members, evenly divided among house and senate, democrats and republicans. the 11th of us voted for the final work produc
and so, as a champion of that fair shake i'm excited to have senator durbin. [applause] >> neera, thank you very much for those kind words your elections as you say have consequences. politics is driven by a lot of things. candids that money -- [inaudible] the center has been at the forefront of that effort to make sure that progressive ideas backed up by more than just -- but arguments of mind. thank you for doing that. i don't know what we do without you. it's an honor to be here with...